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What an amazing video! I had to slow down and rewind in a lot of places because it was so filled with info. Also, love the self-deprecating humour and the unassuming tone. Brilliant 💟

JavaScript could destroy the web if we are not careful.

Great talk. Please don't ship a feature without approval though.

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I never knew reactivity is such a big deal

Well, I'm sold. Svelte it is.

Comparing absolute dumpster fire that is JS to a rocket engineering is just otherworldly level of, ahem, * being wrong *.

It is so sad that these kinds of videos are so underrated on youtube... This was so easy for me to understand <3... Thank you Ronen

Why is its name value Kiev?

very nice

No doubt amazing explanation yet I don't have enough understanding to understand everything %100 percent. Thx for this video anyway

Mindblown. A fantastic talk!

If you have worked on large applications, you would understand that Svelte is still relatively immature and significantly lags behind JSX And this is good idea to think about 20-40% of performance if you write small / medium project but if you work on large /complex app you think about team productivity first. You know, in common cases its no matter - 0,020ms or 0,050ms work your script, Its more important testability, debbugging, productivity. Svelte stil has many teething problems to this day I really like the idea of "server-side reactivity", but if you have more freedom with jsx - I choose jsx for complex projects You can compare this way like - we choose using c#/java , no c++ for complex backend with rich business logic - yes, java /c# is less performance than c++, but they give us more productivity

Not only an amazing dev but an amazing speaker as well!

graphics editor 🤣

so I learned svelte is a spreadsheet :O

this aged so well

Tbh feels like wasting 57 minutes of my life. All these ideas could be shared in a much smaller time frame if you throw away wasteful words.

Great video, many thanks :)

it's quite funny when there is a lot of devs in the audience live debugging some live coding <3

Very, VERY informative. Motivating also...

Thank you so much!

18:22 I am missing a comparison to angular. Angular uses the real DOM too. Why use svelte instead of angular? I am also missing the testing tools.

why do you need "module" variable on lines 83, 85 and 87? Non of the modules actually use "module" parameter, only "require" and "exports". I might have to try rewriting it myself, maybe I missed something.

Laravel + Inertia + Svelte = 🔥

Excellent. I started programming before React and stopped before i had to learn it. Now, i’m back and the smell that was react doesn’t stick to the frontend anymore. I consider myself lucky, thank you.

Nels, Great presentation and excellent examples. Thanks for doing it.

34:02 "What's good for developers is ultimately good for users"

A talk, and a framework, that keeps on giving. You had me at the todo-list, then you captured my heart when you showed me transitions. Man I have battled many transition states with React.

I've been looking for something like this for years. An easy to use front end framework for personal projects that gives you the power of templating engines and component based designs without getting in your way by forcing you to write tons of boilerplate because it assumes you are writing an enterprise app (*cough* Angular) I've been messing around with it for a few hours and I already have a basic CRUD app running with bootstrap. I really hope this project takes off.

This was great, thank you Ronen.

Rich is one of the few amazing presenters. He really did create something special in Svelte.. it’s so different, so perfect, so..right

Wow

The first 2:30 of this talk has to be the best, most simplified, most relatable example and explanation of the problem with React and why Svelte is a solution. I absolutely adore this talk.

Holy mouth noises 😢

Great Talk! But the mouth sounds..... AAAAHHHH!!!!

26:10 Its kind of irony that he's talking about embedded web and then about A11y next, because these embedded devices don't really care about A11y. And do you know what's the worst part? Svelte's A11y warning is a pain in the ass to disable, not mentioned in any doc, and even if you managed to disable it, it'll break next time you update.

Haven't written a single line of JS last 10 years. Just heard rumours about ReactJs, few things about AngularJs. I wanna build a website with Svelte now. Really impressive.

mind blowing, i will use it!

Does anyone have the link to the RUclips he mentioned near 17:20?

i can never go back to react after seeing this

Great talk but the argument for CSS in JS is that when using classes, you are afraid of changing them because you don't know what they affect. A simple "search all files for a string" will solve that real quick. I'm not saying that CSS in JS is a bad idea, but I don't see why you'd have to make a choice between using classes and typing it all over your JS files. Styles can also get quite long, so it adds a lot of scrolling to your files for thing so don't need to look at as much.

So, what you're saying is that Svelte is just an advanced spreadsheet. Got it.

25:37 Would be interesting to have benchmarks that compare these implementations with a Qt Quick one as well as a regular Qt one

bro, just use C

was looking through React tutorials to start learning it but somehow accidentally came by Svelte. immediately a fan. there's no way back.

"everytime we have to re-run these functions" is what I always complain about

Is this guy from "Silicon Valley" sitcom? The one who organized incubators?

Well explained. Hopefully people can understand it before we all have to write .microsoft scripts

vos decis uuuh guacho hacer componentes de front end es una mierda mira todo el codigo que tengo que hacer y viene este chabon pensando en excel y y compiladores y te cambia la forma de ver todo el proceso. incredible.